Updated September 23, 2026 ยท How we simulate
Don't Pass with Lay Odds loses about $6 per hour on average at a $15 table (100 rolls, $15 don't pass + 2x lay). You finish ahead in 48% of hours, and it ranks #2 of 11 popular strategies for lowest cost.
Bet against the shooter on the Don't Pass, then lay odds against the point. We ran it through 200,000 simulated hour-long sessions (100 rolls each, $15 table, real casino payouts) to see what actually happens.
Put $15 on the Don't Pass bar on the come-out. 2 or 3 wins, 12 is a push, and 7 or 11 loses. Once a point is set, you win if a 7 comes before the point. Here we lay $30 in odds (2x) against the point. Lay odds pay true odds, so like pass odds they carry no house edge.
At 1.36% the Don't Pass is slightly cheaper than the Pass Line. Once a point is set, you're the favorite on every roll.
Bets: $15 don't pass + 2x lay.
| Outcome | Result |
|---|---|
| Average (what it costs you over time) | โ$6 |
| Median hour | โ$5 |
| Bad hour (1 in 10 are worse) | โ$245 |
| Good hour (1 in 10 are better) | $230 |
| Best 1% of hours | $410 or more |
| Worst 1% of hours | โ$440 or worse |
Out of the 11 strategies we've simulated, Don't Pass with Lay Odds ranks #2 for lowest average cost per hour. See the full ranking.
Watch Don't Pass with Lay Odds play one hour. 100 real-odds rolls on autopilot in about 20 seconds, then see how your hour compares with 200,000 simulated ones.
โก Run it nowPlay it yourselfEach session is 100 rolls (about an hour at a busy table) starting on a new shooter, using standard Vegas rules: 3-4-5x odds, casino payouts rounded down, place bets off on the come-out, and a $5,000 table max. At the end of the hour we stop betting, take down removable bets and let contract bets finish. "Down $500" counts any point in the hour where the session was $500 behind. Dice come from a cryptographic random generator. Results are practice estimates, not predictions.
By a hair: 1.36% vs 1.41% house edge. The real difference is feel: you win more often but in smaller amounts, and you're betting against everyone else at the table.
Because once a point is set, 7 is more likely than the point. Laying $30 against a 6 wins $25; laying against a 4 wins $15. That's true odds, no house edge.
Yes, after a point is set you can remove it. You shouldn't, though: at that moment it's your best bet on the table.